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Was Jesus Created?

Was Jesus Created?

Is the Bible reliable?
Was Jesus created?

Was Jesus created? – No. not according many Bible scholars, preachers, creeds, and Christian denominations, who say Jesus has existed from eternity.

JESUS ASSERTED TO BE ETERNAL, UNCREATED

Notice:

“The Son uncreated . . . the Son eternal”—Athanasian Creed

“Within the one Being that is God, there exists three eternally . . . coeternal persons”—The Forgotten Trinity, by James White, p 23

Since this is the case, why is there even any question about whether or not Jesus was created? — The reason why is because of what the Bible has to say. read more

Is Jesus A Creature Who Has God Over Him?

Is Jesus A Creature Who Has God Over Him?

Is the Bible reliable?
Is Jesus a creature who has God over him?

The Trinity doctrine says that Jesus, the Son of God, is not a creature, but is Almighty God himself. However, could it possibly be true that Jesus is a creature who has God over him? If Jesus is a creature with God over him, the Trinity doctrine is proven false. The following is a discussion with a Trinitarian about these and related issues. “T” stands for Trinitarian, and “BA” stands for us at this website.

BA—Since the Bible says he is “the firstborn of every creature” (Colossians 1:15 KJV), “whose origin is from of old, from ancient days” (Micah 5:2 NRSV).
T – The firstborn of every creature; not the first of the creation, or the first creature God made; for all things in Colossians 1:16 are said to be created by him, and therefore he himself can never be a creature. read more

DOES REVELATION TEACH THE TRINITY?

DOES REVELATION TEACH THE TRINITY?

The Bible’s final book, Revelation, predicts the future for the Church and humankind. The Trinity doctrine is said to be the main doctrine of Christianity, so we would expect to find the Trinity in Revelation, if the doctrine is true. The very first verse of the Book of Revelation gives us a clue as to the answer to the question of whether the Trinity doctrine is in Revelation:

“The revelation from Jesus Christ, WHICH GOD GAVE HIM to show his servants what must soon take place” (Revelation 1:1 NIV). [Emphasis ours]. What a minute! Isn’t the Son of God, Jesus Christ, supposed to be”fully God”? Isn’t the Son supposed to be Almighty? How can that be, since, first of all, in this verse, we see that “God” is someone other than “Jesus Christ”. Next we notice that “God gave him” “the revelation”. If Jesus was Almighty God, as Trinitarians claim, he would not have to be “given” anything, much less the Revelation by God–he would already have it–and know it, by virtue of being Almighty God himself! Why was Jesus Christ, the supposed 2nd member of the Trinity kept out of the loop? The Trinity doctrine not only is not in the scriptures, it contradicts the scriptures, and it makes no sense! “God is not the author of confusion” (1 Corinthians 14:33 KJV). read more

Do the Twelve Minor Prophets Support Trinity Doctrine?

Do the Twelve Minor Prophets Support Trinity Doctrine?

Who Were the “Minor Prophets”? Part One: Hosea-Micah – Dr ...

It is often stated by those in authority in churches that God is a Trinity, and evidence of this is found throughout the entire Bible. There are twelve Bible books that aren’t used as much as other Bible books, called the Minor Prophets. Is the Trinity doctrine found in the Twelve Minor Prophets?

“The Father eternal, the Son eternal, the Holy Spirit eternal. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet, there are not three Gods, but one God”—Athanasian Creed

The statement quoted above is said to be the primary belief of most Christian groups. If this is true, then we should find some evidence of it throughout the Bible.

The 12 relatively short Bible Books called “the minor prophets”, from Hosea to Malachi, make many references to Almighty God “Yahweh”, but no references to Jesus Christ by name, and some references to God’s spirit, or the holy Spirit. Do the twelve Minor Prophets support the Trinity doctrine?

Hosea 8:5-6 – “I reject this calf . . .  you worship . . . was created by your own hands. It is not God” (NLT). The text doesn’t directly mention the Christian Trinity, of course, because it wasn’t even “created” until the 4th and 5th centuries CE. However, it warns against any form of worship that isn’t directed solely to Yahweh God the Father (John 4:23), thus highlighting the folly and divine anger provoked by worshipping created things over the Creator (Romans 1:25). Worship of Jesus is like calf worship. Jesus himself said, ” . . . ‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP YAHWEH YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY’ (Matthew 4:10 LSB margin). “The true worshippers will worship the Father” (John 4:24), and “pray” to “our Father” (Matthew 6:9). In contrast, Trinitarians mostly worship, and pray to, Jesus in actual practice. There are pictures of Jesus all over their churches, similar to calf worshippers with their visible idol. In contrast, “no one has ever seen God” (1 John 4:12 NIV), “no one has seen the Father” (John 6:46 NIV), because he’s “invisible” (1 Timothy 1:17 NIV), so no picture can be made of him. The Trinity doctrine miserably fails the scriptural “test” (1 Thessalonians 5:21; 1 John 4:1).

Hosea 10:12; 11:1  – “It is time to seek Yahweh . . . When Israel was a youth I loved him, And out of Egypt I called My Son” (LSB).  It is often asserted that ‘the Son of God is Yahweh God’. But, what do the scriptures say? Hosea 11:1 is quoted in Matthew and applied to Jesus being called out of Egypt: “So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was night, and departed for Egypt. And he remained there until the death of Herod, in order that what had been spoken by Yahweh through the prophet would be fulfilled, saying ‘OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON'” (Matthew 2:15 LSB margin). Thus, the scriptures plainly indicate that Jesus is Yahweh’s Son, which means Jesus can’t be Yahweh. Without the Son being Yahweh God, ‘the Son of God is Yahweh God’ assertion collapses.

Hosea 11:9 – “I am God and not a man” (NIV). Jesus is commonly asserted to be a “God-man, fully man and fully God”.  However, the scriptures contradict this unscriptural concept. How can we be absolutely sure that God cannot be a man? Jesus said: “God is a spirit” (John 4:23 GWT). In contrast, on earth, prior to his death, Jesus was “fully human in every way” (Hebrews 2:17 NIV). He was “put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit” (1 Peter 3:18 LSB).

Hosea 12:5  “Even Yahweh, the God of hosts, Yahweh is His name of =&0=&This verse and the following commentary highlight the uniqueness and importance of Yahweh and his name (reputation).
=&1=&This phrase emphasizes the sovereignty and supreme authority of God over all heavenly armies and earthly powers. The term “LORD” is the English representation of the Hebrew name Yahweh, which signifies God’s eternal and self-existent nature. “God of Hosts” (Hebrew: “Yahweh Sabaoth”) is a title that underscores God’s command over the angelic armies, reflecting His omnipotence and ability to execute His will throughout creation. This title is frequently used in the Old Testament, especially in prophetic literature, to remind Israel of God’s power and His ability to protect and deliver His people. It also serves as a warning to those who oppose Him, as seen in passages like Isaiah 1:24 and Jeremiah 11:20. =&2=&This phrase highlights the fame and reputation of God’s name, which is revered and respected throughout the earth. The repetition of “LORD” (Yahweh) emphasizes the importance of His covenant name, which was revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14-15 as “I AM WHO I AM.” This name signifies God’s unchanging nature and His faithfulness to His promises. The concept of God’s name being renowned is echoed in passages like Psalm 8:1 and Malachi 1:11, where His glory and majesty are recognized by all nations. In the New Testament, the name of Jesus is also exalted, as seen in Philippians 2:9-11, where every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. This connection underscores the continuity of God’s revelation and the fulfillment of His promises through Christ.”  (Bible Hub Study Bible). 
While Yahweh God the Father operates through his Son, Jesus Christ, only “Yahweh” is referred to as “the God of hosts”. “Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:11). Those who assert that Jesus Christ is Almighty God gloss right over the latter part of Philippians 2:11. Yahweh reigns supreme over all, including Jesus.

Joel 2:27 – “Thus you will know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am Yahweh your God, and there is no other” (LSB). This scripture shows that ‘Yahweh is God and no other’, that is, he is incomparable, unique. Jesus himself said, “Yahweh our God is one Yahweh” (Mark 12:29 LSB margin; Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB margin), not 3-in-1.

Joel 2:28 – “It shall come to pass I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh” (NAB). The holy Spirit, which is  featured in this prophecy is obviously not Yahweh God, as many assert. In fact, the wording is contrary to the idea that the holy Spirit could be a person. Even more so, when this scripture is quoted by the apostle Peter on the day the holy Spirit is poured out, notice the wording he is inspired to use: “This is what was spoken through through the prophet Joel: ‘It will come to pass in the last days,’ God says, ‘that I will pour out a portion of my spirit upon all flesh'”  (

Acts 2:16,17 read more

Is the Trinity in Colossians?

Is the Trinity in Colossians?

Is the Bible reliable?
Is the Trinity in the book of Colossians?

Is the Trinity doctrine in the book of Colossians? Let’s examine all the verses in this Bible book where God and Jesus are mentioned in relation to each other. Also. let’s look for any references to the holy Spirit, which is said to be the third person of the Trinity. Then, let’s see whether what Bible says agrees with Trinitarianism, or proves it to be false. Notice all the references in this letter to the superior position of Almighty God toward his Son, Jesus Christ, and the subordinate position of Jesus Christ in relation to his heavenly Father. read more

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